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		<title>By: me studio &#187; something old, something new,</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>me studio &#187; something old, something new,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] borrowed, something blue&#8230; following my posts on the new VPRO identity also here and here, the identity launch has been covered on many other sites and although not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cPoticha</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>cPoticha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it looks fine to me, though nothing outstanding. Sometimes solutions like this (&quot;you can color it any way you want!&quot;) seem to be a bit of a cop-out. But this is often the problem with designing for a company with a lot of &#039;heritage&#039;; they only want an evolution of their old design. I wasn&#039;t too familiar with the old logo, but when I saw it, I thought it looked VERY dated and tired (not &quot;neutral&quot; and &quot;timeless&quot; as others have commented). The outlined letters, with their overly sharp angles and difficult proportions, seemed like something from the &#039;30s re-interpreted in the &#039;70s. 

While I can&#039;t applaud Thonik&#039;s work (modified Avenir again?!), I think the new interpretation does the job.

Actually, there seem to be more &#039;ideas&#039; present in the older &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VPRO1970%27s.PNG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1970s version&lt;/a&gt; than in either of the successors. The logo&#039;s swash forms echo musical instruments or horns seem to be very appropriate for a cultural &quot;omroep&quot; organization.

Nobody&#039;s perfect, but I can&#039;t see why anyone would love the old logo so dearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it looks fine to me, though nothing outstanding. Sometimes solutions like this (&#8220;you can color it any way you want!&#8221;) seem to be a bit of a cop-out. But this is often the problem with designing for a company with a lot of &#8216;heritage&#8217;; they only want an evolution of their old design. I wasn&#8217;t too familiar with the old logo, but when I saw it, I thought it looked VERY dated and tired (not &#8220;neutral&#8221; and &#8220;timeless&#8221; as others have commented). The outlined letters, with their overly sharp angles and difficult proportions, seemed like something from the &#8217;30s re-interpreted in the &#8217;70s. </p>
<p>While I can&#8217;t applaud Thonik&#8217;s work (modified Avenir again?!), I think the new interpretation does the job.</p>
<p>Actually, there seem to be more &#8216;ideas&#8217; present in the older <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VPRO1970%27s.PNG" rel="nofollow">1970s version</a> than in either of the successors. The logo&#8217;s swash forms echo musical instruments or horns seem to be very appropriate for a cultural &#8220;omroep&#8221; organization.</p>
<p>Nobody&#8217;s perfect, but I can&#8217;t see why anyone would love the old logo so dearly.</p>
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		<title>By: gladfrelter</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>gladfrelter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzgCVZqmztQ

Now you can see it complete, and then I must say, I liked it..
Sorry guys, but it is well done now..</description>
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<p>Now you can see it complete, and then I must say, I liked it..<br />
Sorry guys, but it is well done now..</p>
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		<title>By: Het nieuwe VPRO logo is&#8230;. &#187; Hay Kranen</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Het nieuwe VPRO logo is&#8230;. &#187; Hay Kranen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;this looks like it’s designed by a manager.&#8220; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: me studio &#187; tv logo</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>me studio &#187; tv logo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a new identity, the new &#8216;VPRO&#8217; identity is also due to launch this month (see previous post) but this one leaves me oddly feeling completely without an opinion, in fact i don&#8217;t really [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a new identity, the new &#8216;VPRO&#8217; identity is also due to launch this month (see previous post) but this one leaves me oddly feeling completely without an opinion, in fact i don&#8217;t really [...]</p>
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		<title>By: yuri</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>yuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s way too acceptable. VPRO as a broadcasting station has had so many wonderful and weird programs that could only be broadcasted by the VPRO (hence their old slogan &#039;lijkt nergens op&#039;). If they wanted to redo the logo they should&#039;ve at least given it something that you could oppose to other than the fact that it&#039;s not the old logo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s way too acceptable. VPRO as a broadcasting station has had so many wonderful and weird programs that could only be broadcasted by the VPRO (hence their old slogan &#8216;lijkt nergens op&#8217;). If they wanted to redo the logo they should&#8217;ve at least given it something that you could oppose to other than the fact that it&#8217;s not the old logo.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention me studio » new style -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention me studio » new style -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by nveekelen and nveekelen, Mister Lee animation. Mister Lee animation said: eloquent in its simplicity, just like the old one: the new #VPRO logo http://bit.ly/cW6N1B #evolutionnotrevolution (via @thijsvanexel) #fb [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by nveekelen and nveekelen, Mister Lee animation. Mister Lee animation said: eloquent in its simplicity, just like the old one: the new #VPRO logo <a href="http://bit.ly/cW6N1B" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cW6N1B</a> #evolutionnotrevolution (via @thijsvanexel) #fb [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JvD</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>JvD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 10:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like the old one better... that says it all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like the old one better&#8230; that says it all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 06:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the comments folks, i posted my own answer to this story on the blog  yesterday... (see news) whatever the full story will be when it gets officially released it&#039;s clear that it will get talked about... as &#039;rolf&#039; points out the logo isn&#039;t the whole picture of course...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the comments folks, i posted my own answer to this story on the blog  yesterday&#8230; (see news) whatever the full story will be when it gets officially released it&#8217;s clear that it will get talked about&#8230; as &#8216;rolf&#8217; points out the logo isn&#8217;t the whole picture of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rolf</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>rolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it. Because &quot;they&quot; didn&#039;t felt like throwing everything away, but changed some details to make it fresh again. I bet this is only a part of a bigger style and often you can keep the logo simple when you&#039;re freaking out on the rest.

old school = the new school</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it. Because &#8220;they&#8221; didn&#8217;t felt like throwing everything away, but changed some details to make it fresh again. I bet this is only a part of a bigger style and often you can keep the logo simple when you&#8217;re freaking out on the rest.</p>
<p>old school = the new school</p>
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		<title>By: vos</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>vos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@willem Why are you curious about what both commissioner and designer have to say about this logo? Most likely it&#039;s an überpositive story where nothing went wrong and this result could have been the only outcome, don&#039;t you think? And why is it that you &#039;like&#039; it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@willem Why are you curious about what both commissioner and designer have to say about this logo? Most likely it&#8217;s an überpositive story where nothing went wrong and this result could have been the only outcome, don&#8217;t you think? And why is it that you &#8216;like&#8217; it?</p>
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		<title>By: Hansje</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Hansje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If VPRO is happy, than Thonik is not to blame... I just hate the fact that they are getting away with this. I&#039;d love to hear the briefing and I&#039;d love to see Thonic&#039;s sketch process... Maybe that will explain this mediocre outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If VPRO is happy, than Thonik is not to blame&#8230; I just hate the fact that they are getting away with this. I&#8217;d love to hear the briefing and I&#8217;d love to see Thonic&#8217;s sketch process&#8230; Maybe that will explain this mediocre outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Willem van Roosmalen</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Willem van Roosmalen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kinda like it. Although it&#039;s hard to say without knowing what the intentions behind the new identity are and how it will behave at different carriers. Let&#039;s wait for August, I&#039;d love to hear what Thonik and VPRO have to say about this..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kinda like it. Although it&#8217;s hard to say without knowing what the intentions behind the new identity are and how it will behave at different carriers. Let&#8217;s wait for August, I&#8217;d love to hear what Thonik and VPRO have to say about this..</p>
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		<title>By: floor</title>
		<link>http://www.mestudio.info/2010/07/29/new-style/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>floor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current VPRO logo is a classic. It shouldn&#039;t be altered in any way as it is still very outstanding, a timeless design even, if you ask me. We should set up a protest campaign against this very common thonikly design (is it the Avenir again??). Maybe a riot in front of their office?  REVOLT!!! Stay off my favorite broadcast logo man!!!! thonik bitches...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current VPRO logo is a classic. It shouldn&#8217;t be altered in any way as it is still very outstanding, a timeless design even, if you ask me. We should set up a protest campaign against this very common thonikly design (is it the Avenir again??). Maybe a riot in front of their office?  REVOLT!!! Stay off my favorite broadcast logo man!!!! thonik bitches&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kaleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>computer says NO !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>computer says NO !</p>
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